For many people, math is cold and lifeless, a bunch of rules to follow---a way to separate people rather than a way to bring them together. It’s no wonder that many have anxiety over their math experiences. But what if we could see how math is tied to our deepest human longings---for beauty, for justice, for love? Would we see it---and ourselves---differently? Join mathematician Francis Su in conversation with Mia Chung as they discuss the broader implications of his new book Mathematics for Human Flourishing, which he wrote in collaboration with his friend Christopher Jackson, an incarcerated man who reshaped Su's own views of what math is, who it's for, and why anyone should learn it.