Play (1:8:05) March 15, 2016 Are Forgiveness and Justice at Odds? A Muslim and a Christian Discuss Race, Faith, and Reconciliation Oluwakemi “Kemi” BalogunUniversity of Oregon Claudia MayUC Berkeley Jane IrunguUniversity of Oregon Jump To Comments Share This Talk Play (1:8:05) Topics Justice Race Tag Race and Faith Reconciliation/Forgiveness Embed | gonewiththewind Great discussion! clifford cook Forgivness as with the sin committed against a person are subject to karmic, law Life is based on balance this is what karma, repaying debts, to create balance. If some hurts you , they have created an imbalance , they may have been a weak person , and so wanted to over power and hurt you to feel empowered. having that power of your being say a mugging and or a beating that accompanied it can be empowering. So if you had experience these things , they will have hurt you psycologicaly emotionaly and physicaly, and the last thing on your mind is forgviness, god never created us to forgive right away , all sins against us have to repaid , meaning those who hurt us have to take back what they dished out, Many people hang on to things, intemt on revenge, and they think about how they can pay there attackers back , for years they can hold on to these resentments, and then one day they catch up to the person who hurt them , and they hurt them back , and repay , the debt, once the score is settled, the person will forgive them , So where do these feelings come from, the desire for revenge, and justice, because they can be very strong emotionaly inside us . These feelings come from god and the angels and they are put into us as part of our karma and learning on earth , gods creations are based on balance, on karma and justice so that thete is no unfairness, no injustice , These are lessons of our earthly world , we are jere to learn from cause and effect , and karma and balance, fairness and unfairness, and revenge and forgivness .